tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post4010399759213651383..comments2024-02-20T07:06:56.933+00:00Comments on THE SKINNER: More Zero Point Stuff.Neal Asherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13933911904170752700noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-73995775326922036172010-04-21T12:19:37.866+01:002010-04-21T12:19:37.866+01:00I do of course cheat in my other books, but in thi...I do of course cheat in my other books, but in this case the suspension of disbelief required is my own. I'd rather write Van Vogt than Von Daniken!Neal Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13933911904170752700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-11825346668804119322010-04-19T10:51:48.101+01:002010-04-19T10:51:48.101+01:00But what if our souls do transmit to the fourth di...But what if our souls do transmit to the fourth dimension when we die?Grim's Realityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15141927678427787365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-46431024151233122822010-04-17T21:46:00.117+01:002010-04-17T21:46:00.117+01:00posted this on the earlier entry, but it really sh...posted this on the earlier entry, but it really should be here:<br /><br />I really enjoy how Stephen Baxter integrates vacuum density and the cosmological constant into his Xeelee Sequence/Universe.<br /><br />IMO, this is a really eloquent approach without nitpicking into whether one can draw ZPE from vacuum. He acknowledges the premise and integrates it with Guth's multiverse stuff without delving into too much overt law breaking.<br /><br />Both the Xeelee Nightfighter Discontinuity Drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeelee_technology#Displacement_Drive) and the Xeelee Ring as a narrative device(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeelee_technology#The_Ring) are really interesting to me. <br /><br />The big picture idea I like about this pokes at whether the vacuum density of our patch in the 'Guthian' quilt is responsible for seeding our universe with the array of matter that resulted in complex structures, and engendered life suited for the matter 'distribution' in our visible cosmos.<br /><br />In going through the Ring, he alludes to other patches in the multiverse quilt having different vacuum densities and tech like the Discontinuity Drive not quite working on the other side of the Ring. Also the matter which life is based around being different, etc.<br /><br />If you haven't read the Xeelee sequence, pick up Ring and his book of shorts Vacuum Diagrams. Very cool way of telling the cold death story and the engineered flight of baryonic life out of our cosmos.<br /><br />Or, if you want the whole sequence together, I just noticed a Xeelee Omnibus is coming out soon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0575090405<br /><br />also, theres always apocalypse as-narrative-device due to vacuum metastability which is pretty neat :) <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuumAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183997319290631593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-22914660917697398362010-04-16T09:28:12.009+01:002010-04-16T09:28:12.009+01:00Neal, all very interesting, but I suggest that you...Neal, all very interesting, but I suggest that you cheat, just like most SF writers.<br /><br />We know that FTL travel is theoretically not possible yet that hasn't stopped a myriad books side-stepping it by postulating hyper-space drives, wormhole tunneling or other unlikely (or impossible) devices to shift their characters around the otherwise unbridgeable distances of space.<br /><br />OK, ZPE is iffy to say the least, and any energy obtained would be insignificant. So - instead of worrying about how to get more from contemporary theory, tackle the problem from the other end. <br /><br />Shift the zero point. Get the omniscient Gordon or someone to explain how 'other space' has different constants and in at least one zero is either lower (allowing a greater potential energy to be tapped) or higher - allowing our space/energy to be tapped from 'outside' with the side-effect of energy wave-forms/information to get into their universe.<br /><br />An 'as we do unto others, so other others do unto us' scenario. Sort of like the Eric Frank Russell plot twist finale in 'The Waitabits'.<br /><br />Could be fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-28187846651871229922010-04-15T22:54:12.121+01:002010-04-15T22:54:12.121+01:00While you're on this tangent - have a look int...While you're on this tangent - have a look into (if you haven't already) Hawing Radiation<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation<br /><br />It's similar to ZPE, however it's got a solid base in theory, where like ZPE particle and anti-particle pairs come into existence near the event horizon of a black hole and instead of annihilating themselves again, leaving a net energy gain of zero, one falls into the black hole and one escapes, giving the appearance of the black hole emitting energy.kaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03675538969081301816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29616976.post-32793590781576015682010-04-15T16:37:50.476+01:002010-04-15T16:37:50.476+01:001. This manages to be wrong thrice. QM is one of t...1. This manages to be wrong thrice. QM is one of the most tested theories, Bohm's Pilot wave theory is QM also, and ZPE is real and valid.<br /><br />2. At least this is only wrong twice.<br /><br />3. Getting better only wrong once, if it is a mathematical artifact it would be difficult to explain the sudden and short lived appearance of new particles in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC)experiments. When you smash protons and you get all these exotic particles that annihilate from an anti-particle collision, where does the anti-particle come from?<br /><br />4. Likely true for now.<br /><br />5. Maybe.<br /><br />6. I think you mean Quantum Foam here, not ZPE. I suppose you can make an argument that the foam can exist because of the non-zero background that results from ZPE.<br /><br />7. There is no 3-space/4-space issue, there s simply spacetime. The word electric flux also raises suspicion why just the electromagnetic force, and not the weak, strong or gravitational? <br /><br />This post has got me thinking though.Cheshire Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15883062198429824383noreply@blogger.com